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		By: Bob Coffey		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2015 02:17:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mike Craddock:   It may be futile to make the suggestion, but if you choose to follow it, you may find yourself better positioned to comment on the future of the GOP than your post shows you are now.  Look up &quot;principled.&quot;   Look up &quot;utilitarian.&quot;   You will find that you fall into the latter camp.   You will also find that those who voted for Mr Brogdon fall largely into the former camp.  You will also shortly find that if you and those whose thinking you represent prevail, there will be no GOP worth having.  An unprincipled political party has already slipped into the dustbin of history, no matter how &quot;successful&quot; it may seem to those of a utilitarian bent.   Just sayin&#039;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike Craddock:   It may be futile to make the suggestion, but if you choose to follow it, you may find yourself better positioned to comment on the future of the GOP than your post shows you are now.  Look up &#8220;principled.&#8221;   Look up &#8220;utilitarian.&#8221;   You will find that you fall into the latter camp.   You will also find that those who voted for Mr Brogdon fall largely into the former camp.  You will also shortly find that if you and those whose thinking you represent prevail, there will be no GOP worth having.  An unprincipled political party has already slipped into the dustbin of history, no matter how &#8220;successful&#8221; it may seem to those of a utilitarian bent.   Just sayin&#8217;.</p>
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		By: Mike Craddock		</title>
		<link>https://www.theokie.com/our-take-brogdons-last-stand/#comment-1056441</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2015 20:51:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In Tulsa County the &quot;Establishment&quot; have been in charge for the past 8 years or so and that Establishment was the Libertarian wing. And Tulsa has been a mess including the finances. It wouldn&#039;t have matter who was in the Chair, its the our man or no one; our way or no way, mentality that divides the Republican Party. 

I don&#039;t have much hope that things will be better.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Tulsa County the &#8220;Establishment&#8221; have been in charge for the past 8 years or so and that Establishment was the Libertarian wing. And Tulsa has been a mess including the finances. It wouldn&#8217;t have matter who was in the Chair, its the our man or no one; our way or no way, mentality that divides the Republican Party. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t have much hope that things will be better.</p>
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		By: Bob Coffey		</title>
		<link>https://www.theokie.com/our-take-brogdons-last-stand/#comment-1056053</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2015 00:37:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Listen to the establishment telling the Hoi polloi that they need to do as the establishment dictates. I certainly hope Mr Brogdon consigns this advice to the trash can that it deserves to find itself in.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Listen to the establishment telling the Hoi polloi that they need to do as the establishment dictates. I certainly hope Mr Brogdon consigns this advice to the trash can that it deserves to find itself in.</p>
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		By: Jason		</title>
		<link>https://www.theokie.com/our-take-brogdons-last-stand/#comment-1055978</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2015 21:47:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The article is mostly right. Keep artiest activists libertarian showed up with their mindset on Brogdon. This being centered around former chairman Dave Westin breaking numerous rules within the Oklahoma GOP structure. Further west exactions throughout his tenure drove wedges fracturing the GOP internally and creating factionsrather than creating a spirit of unity within the Oklahoma GOP. Reality is the credentialing debauckle  was an example of the failed leadership of recent years I feel I had very little to do with removal of Weston. At best it allowed Pam Pollard to edge Weston out in the first vote. If this would&#039;ve been the case it was well known on the convention floor but the majority of Pollard supporters work to vote for Brogdon therefore increasing his margin of victory in a second vote.where I think the article goes wrong is labeling Brogdon&#039;s recent campaigns as a gaff. Often people run many times to achieve an office. Former State Senatoer Brogdon has one of the highest conservative ratings of nearly anyone in the state legislature. I simply feel this article takes this point to an extreme.
Bottom line is Westin was removed due to people are tired of politicians not legislating based on principle. Regardless of whether you have a D or an R in front of your name it&#039;s really pointless if you cannot legislate from right principal. And how was one ever to get a principled politician in office under the Republican name with the chairman who cannot lead likewise.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The article is mostly right. Keep artiest activists libertarian showed up with their mindset on Brogdon. This being centered around former chairman Dave Westin breaking numerous rules within the Oklahoma GOP structure. Further west exactions throughout his tenure drove wedges fracturing the GOP internally and creating factionsrather than creating a spirit of unity within the Oklahoma GOP. Reality is the credentialing debauckle  was an example of the failed leadership of recent years I feel I had very little to do with removal of Weston. At best it allowed Pam Pollard to edge Weston out in the first vote. If this would&#8217;ve been the case it was well known on the convention floor but the majority of Pollard supporters work to vote for Brogdon therefore increasing his margin of victory in a second vote.where I think the article goes wrong is labeling Brogdon&#8217;s recent campaigns as a gaff. Often people run many times to achieve an office. Former State Senatoer Brogdon has one of the highest conservative ratings of nearly anyone in the state legislature. I simply feel this article takes this point to an extreme.<br />
Bottom line is Westin was removed due to people are tired of politicians not legislating based on principle. Regardless of whether you have a D or an R in front of your name it&#8217;s really pointless if you cannot legislate from right principal. And how was one ever to get a principled politician in office under the Republican name with the chairman who cannot lead likewise.</p>
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